Talk:941.37 Welcome To Monuments for Cities
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A City contacted me regarding the Welcome To signs. He was frustrated because the links in the article lead to the intranet, so he was unable to access the form he needed.
Keith L. Smith: Thanks for the question. The response from Traffic is:
- I believe this is the way we want to keep it. The city should not be using the EPG as the initial point of contact with MoDOT and trying to fill out the contracts before contacting a MoDOT individual. These links are really intended for the MoDOT representative and one of the last steps in the process. We have had many issues with our TR-15 signing contracts where a blank contract is sent out as an example of what the city (or other entity) would expect to see and all too many times they attempt to fill out the contract and even alter the contract contents and then send it back to us expecting the process to be complete. This only makes things more difficult as we have to restart the process and properly fill out the contract and send it back to them for their signature. A City should be contacting MoDOT directly and discussing their plans at the preliminary stages so any issues can be properly addressed long before these forms are needed. Another major issue we have, sometimes a negative with the EPG being public, is entities go on their own trying to interpret the EPG and then get upset when they try to finalize the process and find out their interpretations are incorrect, especially when they have already invested their funds on signs or materials. There are many cases in the EPG where links and references are intended for MoDOT only. Even though the EPG can be viewed by the public, I don't believe all aspects are appropriate for full access, such as our internal web pages, which are not intended for public viewing.